Magens DORRIEN
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Eigenschaften
| Art | Wert | Datum | Ort | Quellenangaben |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Magens DORRIEN | |||
| Name | WIRD DORRIEN-MAGENS | |||
| Beruf | Stadtrat | 1796 bis 1812 | London Information über diesen Ort im GOV nach diesem Ort suchen | [3] [4] |
| Religionszugehörigkeit | EV. | |||
| Besitz | Kauf | ab 1801 | Wealden, East Sussex Information über diesen Ort im GOV nach diesem Ort suchen | [5] |
Ereignisse
| Art | Datum | Ort | Quellenangaben |
|---|---|---|---|
| Geburt | 1761 | ||
| Tod | 30. Mai 1849 | East Grinstead, Mid-Sussex nach diesem Ort suchen | |
| Wohnen | 1796 bis 7. November 1796 | Carmarthen Information über diesen Ort im GOV nach diesem Ort suchen | [6] [7] |
| Wohnen | 7. Mai 1804 bis Dezember 1812 | Ludgershall/Hampshire Information über diesen Ort im GOV nach diesem Ort suchen | [8] [9] |
| Wohnen | ab 1813 | London Information über diesen Ort im GOV nach diesem Ort suchen | [10] [11] |
| Namensänderung | 30. September 1794 | London Information über diesen Ort im GOV nach diesem Ort suchen | [12] [13] |
| Heirat | 16. Dezember 1788 | London Information über diesen Ort im GOV nach diesem Ort suchen | [14] |
Eltern
| John DORRIEN | Ann BARWICKE |
Ehepartner und Kinder
| Heirat | Ehepartner | Kinder |
|---|---|---|
| 16. Dezember 1788 London |
Henrietta Cecilia RICE |
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Quellenangaben
| 1 | Hermann Friedrich Dörrien und Frau Agneta Wolter |
| Lebensbeschreibung-Hermann-Friedrich-DOERRIEN und seiner Familie erstellt von: Robin Cary Askew, Canada | |
| 2 | The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 |
| The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 ---------------------------------------------------------- DORRIEN MAGENS, Magens (? 1761-1849), of 10 Cavendish Square, Mdx. and Woodcot, Nettlebed, Oxon. Carmarthen 1796 - 7 Nov. 1796 Ludgershall 7 May 1804 - Dec. 1812 b. ? 1761, 3rd s. of John Dorrien, merchant banker and E.I. Co dir., of 9 Billiter Square, London and Great Berkhamstead, Herts, by Anne, da. of Thomas Barwick, merchant, of St. Matthew, Friday Street, London m. 16 Dec. 1788. Hon. Henrietta Cecilia Rice, da. of George Rice* of Newtown. Carm., sis. of George Talbot Rice, 3rd Baron Dinevor, 1s. 4da. Took additional name of Magens by royal lic. 30 Sept. 1794. Capt.-lt. East Grinstead vols. 1803. Dep. chairman. Rock Life Assurance 1812, chairman 1814. 1818. The Dorriens were of Hamburg merchant stock and settled in London in the early 18th century. Magens's father, John Dorrien, was a partner in the house of Dorrien and Mello of Billiter Square and in that of Boetefour, Dorrien & Co. of Old Jewry; from 1772 he was also a partner in the bank of Dorrien, Rucker and Carlton of 22 Finch Lane, Cornhill. On his death in 1784 Magens, who was left over £ 13,000 and an estate at Brightlingsen that had belonged to his uncle Nicholas Magens the army contractor (d.1764). became a partner in the bank, subsequently known as Dorriens, Mello, Martin and Harrison. He remained associated with it until its amalgamation with Curries' in 1842 1. The bank offered to raise the Prussian subsidy in 1794 2 and subscribed £ 40.000 to the loyalty loan for 1797. His younger brother George was a director of the Bank of England for most of this period. Magens owed his political debut to his wife's family, the Dinevors, who encouraged him to offer both for the borough and county of Carmarthen in 1796. The latter was a forlorn hope, but he was at first successful in the borough election, only to be unseated on petition. Had he held the seat, it would have been as locum tenens for the first available member of the Dinevor family. 3 By the time he found another seat, in 1804, he had written a pamphlet on the coinage. (His name is still given to the rare silver shilling of 1798.) This time he was returned unopposed on Viscount Sydney's interest, his brother-in-law, Lord Dinevor having married Sydney's daughter. Magens was listed a supporter of Pitt's second ministry in September 1804 and July 1805. His interest in the silver coinage prompted his first contributions to debate. 27, 29 Mar. 1805, and he opposed the Irish silver tokens bill, because he regarded tokens as little better than paper money and no substitute for the restoration of a silver coinage, 3 May. He was also interested in the linen trade, 7 May 1805. and on 9 June 1806 opposed the linen drawback bill. He supported the Grenville ministry's repeal of Pitt's Additional Force Act, 30 Apr. 1806, and was listed friendly to their abolition of the slave trade, but voted against them on the Hampshire election petition, 13 Feb. 1807. On 22 Apr. 1807 he was teller against the prosecution of a resident of Penryn for election irregularities. He was well disposed to the Portland administration, to whom Lord Dinevor applied on his behalf for a baronetcy. On 10 Aug. 1807 he was a spokesman for the West India sugar planters. 4 On 15 June 1808 he opposed the taxation of foreign investors in the funds. He defended the oyster fishery protection bill, a question in which his Essex property gave him an interest, 22 June 1808. Magens rallied to Perceval's ministry on the address, 23 Jan., and on the Scheldt question, 26 Jan., 23 Feb., 5. 30 Mar. 1810. The Whigs listed him 'Government' at that time. He voted against sinecure reform and against parliamentary reform, 17. 21 May 1810. He sided with ministers on the Regency, 1 Jan. 1811. But he spoke only on the currency problem: he had promised the House to do so. 1 Feb. 1810, and, on the report of the bullion committee, 13 May 1811, announced, as a select committeeman, that he agreed with the chairman as to the depreciation of paper currency and wished to see cash payments resumed as early as possible. On 10 Apr. 1812 he opposed the bank-note bill, at being likely 'to throw the country into a state of instability'. He was a die-hard opponent of Catholic relief, 22 June 1812. Magens was elected to but did not take his seat in the Parliament of 1812, his patron having sold his interest in the seat. He was never again in the House. He died 30 May 1849, aged 87. 5 1 Gent. Mag. (1764), 398; PCC 637 Oxford; Hilton Price, London Bankers, 54. 2 PRO 30/8/130, f. 37 3 See CARMARTHEN 4 Portland mss PW V 114; Gent. Mag. (1807), ii. 958: The Times, 11 Aug. 1807 (Part. Deb. attributed this speech to Charles Rose Ellis). 5 Gent. Mag. (1849), ii. 109 R.G.T. | |
| 3 | Deutsche Kaufleute in London 1660-1818 - Seite 143/144 |
| Seite 143/144 MPs deutscher Abstammumg in der zweiten und dritten Generation Name/ Parlamentszeit ... ... Magens Dorrien Magens 1796-1812 Bei Henry Schiffner, Sir John Duntze, den beiden Barings und John Angerstein handelte es sich um die zweite Generation der Einwanderer, bei den Vansittars, Magens Dorrien Magens und George Shum-Storey um die dritte Generation. --- Mehrere Mitglider der Familien Dörrien aus Hildesheim und Bremen waren Ende des 17. bzw. im frühen 18. Jahrhundert eingewandert. Magens Dorrien Magens war der Sohn von John Dorrien. Den Namen Magens hatte er von seinem Onkel Nicholas Magens aus Hamburg, dem großen Armeelieferanten angenommen, dessen Vermögen er geerbt hatte. | |
| 4 | The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 |
| The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 ---------------------------------------------------------- DORRIEN MAGENS, Magens (? 1761-1849), of 10 Cavendish Square, Mdx. and Woodcot, Nettlebed, Oxon. Carmarthen 1796 - 7 Nov. 1796 Ludgershall 7 May 1804 - Dec. 1812 b. ? 1761, 3rd s. of John Dorrien, merchant banker and E.I. Co dir., of 9 Billiter Square, London and Great Berkhamstead, Herts, by Anne, da. of Thomas Barwick, merchant, of St. Matthew, Friday Street, London m. 16 Dec. 1788. Hon. Henrietta Cecilia Rice, da. of George Rice* of Newtown. Carm., sis. of George Talbot Rice, 3rd Baron Dinevor, 1s. 4da. Took additional name of Magens by royal lic. 30 Sept. 1794. Capt.-lt. East Grinstead vols. 1803. Dep. chairman. Rock Life Assurance 1812, chairman 1814. 1818. The Dorriens were of Hamburg merchant stock and settled in London in the early 18th century. Magens's father, John Dorrien, was a partner in the house of Dorrien and Mello of Billiter Square and in that of Boetefour, Dorrien & Co. of Old Jewry; from 1772 he was also a partner in the bank of Dorrien, Rucker and Carlton of 22 Finch Lane, Cornhill. On his death in 1784 Magens, who was left over £ 13,000 and an estate at Brightlingsen that had belonged to his uncle Nicholas Magens the army contractor (d.1764). became a partner in the bank, subsequently known as Dorriens, Mello, Martin and Harrison. He remained associated with it until its amalgamation with Curries' in 1842 1. The bank offered to raise the Prussian subsidy in 1794 2 and subscribed £ 40.000 to the loyalty loan for 1797. His younger brother George was a director of the Bank of England for most of this period. Magens owed his political debut to his wife's family, the Dinevors, who encouraged him to offer both for the borough and county of Carmarthen in 1796. The latter was a forlorn hope, but he was at first successful in the borough election, only to be unseated on petition. Had he held the seat, it would have been as locum tenens for the first available member of the Dinevor family. 3 By the time he found another seat, in 1804, he had written a pamphlet on the coinage. (His name is still given to the rare silver shilling of 1798.) This time he was returned unopposed on Viscount Sydney's interest, his brother-in-law, Lord Dinevor having married Sydney's daughter. Magens was listed a supporter of Pitt's second ministry in September 1804 and July 1805. His interest in the silver coinage prompted his first contributions to debate. 27, 29 Mar. 1805, and he opposed the Irish silver tokens bill, because he regarded tokens as little better than paper money and no substitute for the restoration of a silver coinage, 3 May. He was also interested in the linen trade, 7 May 1805. and on 9 June 1806 opposed the linen drawback bill. He supported the Grenville ministry's repeal of Pitt's Additional Force Act, 30 Apr. 1806, and was listed friendly to their abolition of the slave trade, but voted against them on the Hampshire election petition, 13 Feb. 1807. On 22 Apr. 1807 he was teller against the prosecution of a resident of Penryn for election irregularities. He was well disposed to the Portland administration, to whom Lord Dinevor applied on his behalf for a baronetcy. On 10 Aug. 1807 he was a spokesman for the West India sugar planters. 4 On 15 June 1808 he opposed the taxation of foreign investors in the funds. He defended the oyster fishery protection bill, a question in which his Essex property gave him an interest, 22 June 1808. Magens rallied to Perceval's ministry on the address, 23 Jan., and on the Scheldt question, 26 Jan., 23 Feb., 5. 30 Mar. 1810. The Whigs listed him 'Government' at that time. He voted against sinecure reform and against parliamentary reform, 17. 21 May 1810. He sided with ministers on the Regency, 1 Jan. 1811. But he spoke only on the currency problem: he had promised the House to do so. 1 Feb. 1810, and, on the report of the bullion committee, 13 May 1811, announced, as a select committeeman, that he agreed with the chairman as to the depreciation of paper currency and wished to see cash payments resumed as early as possible. On 10 Apr. 1812 he opposed the bank-note bill, at being likely 'to throw the country into a state of instability'. He was a die-hard opponent of Catholic relief, 22 June 1812. Magens was elected to but did not take his seat in the Parliament of 1812, his patron having sold his interest in the seat. He was never again in the House. He died 30 May 1849, aged 87. 5 1 Gent. Mag. (1764), 398; PCC 637 Oxford; Hilton Price, London Bankers, 54. 2 PRO 30/8/130, f. 37 3 See CARMARTHEN 4 Portland mss PW V 114; Gent. Mag. (1807), ii. 958: The Times, 11 Aug. 1807 (Part. Deb. attributed this speech to Charles Rose Ellis). 5 Gent. Mag. (1849), ii. 109 R.G.T. | |
| 5 | Magen Dorrien - Hammerwood Lodge |
| Um 1801 kaufte Magens Dorrien Magens (ca. 1768 - 1849), ein Londoner Kaufmann und Bänker sowie künftiger Tory-Parlamentsabgeordneter für den Wahlkreis Carmarthen und später für den Wahlkreis Ludgershall, das Anwesen Hammerwood. Nach seinem Tod hinterließ er das Anwesen seinem Sohn, John Dorrien Magens, der als Vorstandsvorsitzender der East Grinstead Railway Company (EGR) für den Bau der Verbindung von East Grinstead zum Eisenbahnsystem in Three Bridges 1855 verantwortlich war. Vermutlich ließ die Familie Dorrien Magens das Haus erweitern, insbesondere den nordwestlichen Flügel für die Dienerschaft, und die Unterlagen der Volkszählung aus den 1840er-Jahren weisen für diese Zeit mindestens zehn Hausangestellte aus.[7][13] Hammerwood Lodge nach den Umbauten von Teulon, etwa Ende des 19. oder Anfang des 20. Jahrhunderts John Dorrien Magens verkaufte das Anwesen Hammerwood im Juni 1864 für £ 37.250 (entsprechend etwa £ 4,2 Mio. im Jahre 2015), wovon £ 10.000 nur für das Holz waren, an den Bankier Oswald Augustus Smith (1826 - 1902). --------- Quelle: Wikipedia | |
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| Seite 143/144 MPs deutscher Abstammumg in der zweiten und dritten Generation Name/ Parlamentszeit ... ... Magens Dorrien Magens 1796-1812 Bei Henry Schiffner, Sir John Duntze, den beiden Barings und John Angerstein handelte es sich um die zweite Generation der Einwanderer, bei den Vansittars, Magens Dorrien Magens und George Shum-Storey um die dritte Generation. --- Mehrere Mitglider der Familien Dörrien aus Hildesheim und Bremen waren Ende des 17. bzw. im frühen 18. Jahrhundert eingewandert. Magens Dorrien Magens war der Sohn von John Dorrien. Den Namen Magens hatte er von seinem Onkel Nicholas Magens aus Hamburg, dem großen Armeelieferanten angenommen, dessen Vermögen er geerbt hatte. | |
| 7 | The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 |
| The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 ---------------------------------------------------------- DORRIEN MAGENS, Magens (? 1761-1849), of 10 Cavendish Square, Mdx. and Woodcot, Nettlebed, Oxon. Carmarthen 1796 - 7 Nov. 1796 Ludgershall 7 May 1804 - Dec. 1812 b. ? 1761, 3rd s. of John Dorrien, merchant banker and E.I. Co dir., of 9 Billiter Square, London and Great Berkhamstead, Herts, by Anne, da. of Thomas Barwick, merchant, of St. Matthew, Friday Street, London m. 16 Dec. 1788. Hon. Henrietta Cecilia Rice, da. of George Rice* of Newtown. Carm., sis. of George Talbot Rice, 3rd Baron Dinevor, 1s. 4da. Took additional name of Magens by royal lic. 30 Sept. 1794. Capt.-lt. East Grinstead vols. 1803. Dep. chairman. Rock Life Assurance 1812, chairman 1814. 1818. The Dorriens were of Hamburg merchant stock and settled in London in the early 18th century. Magens's father, John Dorrien, was a partner in the house of Dorrien and Mello of Billiter Square and in that of Boetefour, Dorrien & Co. of Old Jewry; from 1772 he was also a partner in the bank of Dorrien, Rucker and Carlton of 22 Finch Lane, Cornhill. On his death in 1784 Magens, who was left over £ 13,000 and an estate at Brightlingsen that had belonged to his uncle Nicholas Magens the army contractor (d.1764). became a partner in the bank, subsequently known as Dorriens, Mello, Martin and Harrison. He remained associated with it until its amalgamation with Curries' in 1842 1. The bank offered to raise the Prussian subsidy in 1794 2 and subscribed £ 40.000 to the loyalty loan for 1797. His younger brother George was a director of the Bank of England for most of this period. Magens owed his political debut to his wife's family, the Dinevors, who encouraged him to offer both for the borough and county of Carmarthen in 1796. The latter was a forlorn hope, but he was at first successful in the borough election, only to be unseated on petition. Had he held the seat, it would have been as locum tenens for the first available member of the Dinevor family. 3 By the time he found another seat, in 1804, he had written a pamphlet on the coinage. (His name is still given to the rare silver shilling of 1798.) This time he was returned unopposed on Viscount Sydney's interest, his brother-in-law, Lord Dinevor having married Sydney's daughter. Magens was listed a supporter of Pitt's second ministry in September 1804 and July 1805. His interest in the silver coinage prompted his first contributions to debate. 27, 29 Mar. 1805, and he opposed the Irish silver tokens bill, because he regarded tokens as little better than paper money and no substitute for the restoration of a silver coinage, 3 May. He was also interested in the linen trade, 7 May 1805. and on 9 June 1806 opposed the linen drawback bill. He supported the Grenville ministry's repeal of Pitt's Additional Force Act, 30 Apr. 1806, and was listed friendly to their abolition of the slave trade, but voted against them on the Hampshire election petition, 13 Feb. 1807. On 22 Apr. 1807 he was teller against the prosecution of a resident of Penryn for election irregularities. He was well disposed to the Portland administration, to whom Lord Dinevor applied on his behalf for a baronetcy. On 10 Aug. 1807 he was a spokesman for the West India sugar planters. 4 On 15 June 1808 he opposed the taxation of foreign investors in the funds. He defended the oyster fishery protection bill, a question in which his Essex property gave him an interest, 22 June 1808. Magens rallied to Perceval's ministry on the address, 23 Jan., and on the Scheldt question, 26 Jan., 23 Feb., 5. 30 Mar. 1810. The Whigs listed him 'Government' at that time. He voted against sinecure reform and against parliamentary reform, 17. 21 May 1810. He sided with ministers on the Regency, 1 Jan. 1811. But he spoke only on the currency problem: he had promised the House to do so. 1 Feb. 1810, and, on the report of the bullion committee, 13 May 1811, announced, as a select committeeman, that he agreed with the chairman as to the depreciation of paper currency and wished to see cash payments resumed as early as possible. On 10 Apr. 1812 he opposed the bank-note bill, at being likely 'to throw the country into a state of instability'. He was a die-hard opponent of Catholic relief, 22 June 1812. Magens was elected to but did not take his seat in the Parliament of 1812, his patron having sold his interest in the seat. He was never again in the House. He died 30 May 1849, aged 87. 5 1 Gent. Mag. (1764), 398; PCC 637 Oxford; Hilton Price, London Bankers, 54. 2 PRO 30/8/130, f. 37 3 See CARMARTHEN 4 Portland mss PW V 114; Gent. Mag. (1807), ii. 958: The Times, 11 Aug. 1807 (Part. Deb. attributed this speech to Charles Rose Ellis). 5 Gent. Mag. (1849), ii. 109 R.G.T. | |
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| Seite 143/144 MPs deutscher Abstammumg in der zweiten und dritten Generation Name/ Parlamentszeit ... ... Magens Dorrien Magens 1796-1812 Bei Henry Schiffner, Sir John Duntze, den beiden Barings und John Angerstein handelte es sich um die zweite Generation der Einwanderer, bei den Vansittars, Magens Dorrien Magens und George Shum-Storey um die dritte Generation. --- Mehrere Mitglider der Familien Dörrien aus Hildesheim und Bremen waren Ende des 17. bzw. im frühen 18. Jahrhundert eingewandert. Magens Dorrien Magens war der Sohn von John Dorrien. Den Namen Magens hatte er von seinem Onkel Nicholas Magens aus Hamburg, dem großen Armeelieferanten angenommen, dessen Vermögen er geerbt hatte. | |
| 9 | The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 |
| The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 ---------------------------------------------------------- DORRIEN MAGENS, Magens (? 1761-1849), of 10 Cavendish Square, Mdx. and Woodcot, Nettlebed, Oxon. Carmarthen 1796 - 7 Nov. 1796 Ludgershall 7 May 1804 - Dec. 1812 b. ? 1761, 3rd s. of John Dorrien, merchant banker and E.I. Co dir., of 9 Billiter Square, London and Great Berkhamstead, Herts, by Anne, da. of Thomas Barwick, merchant, of St. Matthew, Friday Street, London m. 16 Dec. 1788. Hon. Henrietta Cecilia Rice, da. of George Rice* of Newtown. Carm., sis. of George Talbot Rice, 3rd Baron Dinevor, 1s. 4da. Took additional name of Magens by royal lic. 30 Sept. 1794. Capt.-lt. East Grinstead vols. 1803. Dep. chairman. Rock Life Assurance 1812, chairman 1814. 1818. The Dorriens were of Hamburg merchant stock and settled in London in the early 18th century. Magens's father, John Dorrien, was a partner in the house of Dorrien and Mello of Billiter Square and in that of Boetefour, Dorrien & Co. of Old Jewry; from 1772 he was also a partner in the bank of Dorrien, Rucker and Carlton of 22 Finch Lane, Cornhill. On his death in 1784 Magens, who was left over £ 13,000 and an estate at Brightlingsen that had belonged to his uncle Nicholas Magens the army contractor (d.1764). became a partner in the bank, subsequently known as Dorriens, Mello, Martin and Harrison. He remained associated with it until its amalgamation with Curries' in 1842 1. The bank offered to raise the Prussian subsidy in 1794 2 and subscribed £ 40.000 to the loyalty loan for 1797. His younger brother George was a director of the Bank of England for most of this period. Magens owed his political debut to his wife's family, the Dinevors, who encouraged him to offer both for the borough and county of Carmarthen in 1796. The latter was a forlorn hope, but he was at first successful in the borough election, only to be unseated on petition. Had he held the seat, it would have been as locum tenens for the first available member of the Dinevor family. 3 By the time he found another seat, in 1804, he had written a pamphlet on the coinage. (His name is still given to the rare silver shilling of 1798.) This time he was returned unopposed on Viscount Sydney's interest, his brother-in-law, Lord Dinevor having married Sydney's daughter. Magens was listed a supporter of Pitt's second ministry in September 1804 and July 1805. His interest in the silver coinage prompted his first contributions to debate. 27, 29 Mar. 1805, and he opposed the Irish silver tokens bill, because he regarded tokens as little better than paper money and no substitute for the restoration of a silver coinage, 3 May. He was also interested in the linen trade, 7 May 1805. and on 9 June 1806 opposed the linen drawback bill. He supported the Grenville ministry's repeal of Pitt's Additional Force Act, 30 Apr. 1806, and was listed friendly to their abolition of the slave trade, but voted against them on the Hampshire election petition, 13 Feb. 1807. On 22 Apr. 1807 he was teller against the prosecution of a resident of Penryn for election irregularities. He was well disposed to the Portland administration, to whom Lord Dinevor applied on his behalf for a baronetcy. On 10 Aug. 1807 he was a spokesman for the West India sugar planters. 4 On 15 June 1808 he opposed the taxation of foreign investors in the funds. He defended the oyster fishery protection bill, a question in which his Essex property gave him an interest, 22 June 1808. Magens rallied to Perceval's ministry on the address, 23 Jan., and on the Scheldt question, 26 Jan., 23 Feb., 5. 30 Mar. 1810. The Whigs listed him 'Government' at that time. He voted against sinecure reform and against parliamentary reform, 17. 21 May 1810. He sided with ministers on the Regency, 1 Jan. 1811. But he spoke only on the currency problem: he had promised the House to do so. 1 Feb. 1810, and, on the report of the bullion committee, 13 May 1811, announced, as a select committeeman, that he agreed with the chairman as to the depreciation of paper currency and wished to see cash payments resumed as early as possible. On 10 Apr. 1812 he opposed the bank-note bill, at being likely 'to throw the country into a state of instability'. He was a die-hard opponent of Catholic relief, 22 June 1812. Magens was elected to but did not take his seat in the Parliament of 1812, his patron having sold his interest in the seat. He was never again in the House. He died 30 May 1849, aged 87. 5 1 Gent. Mag. (1764), 398; PCC 637 Oxford; Hilton Price, London Bankers, 54. 2 PRO 30/8/130, f. 37 3 See CARMARTHEN 4 Portland mss PW V 114; Gent. Mag. (1807), ii. 958: The Times, 11 Aug. 1807 (Part. Deb. attributed this speech to Charles Rose Ellis). 5 Gent. Mag. (1849), ii. 109 R.G.T. | |
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| Seite 143/144 MPs deutscher Abstammumg in der zweiten und dritten Generation Name/ Parlamentszeit ... ... Magens Dorrien Magens 1796-1812 Bei Henry Schiffner, Sir John Duntze, den beiden Barings und John Angerstein handelte es sich um die zweite Generation der Einwanderer, bei den Vansittars, Magens Dorrien Magens und George Shum-Storey um die dritte Generation. --- Mehrere Mitglider der Familien Dörrien aus Hildesheim und Bremen waren Ende des 17. bzw. im frühen 18. Jahrhundert eingewandert. Magens Dorrien Magens war der Sohn von John Dorrien. Den Namen Magens hatte er von seinem Onkel Nicholas Magens aus Hamburg, dem großen Armeelieferanten angenommen, dessen Vermögen er geerbt hatte. | |
| 11 | The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 |
| The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 ---------------------------------------------------------- DORRIEN MAGENS, Magens (? 1761-1849), of 10 Cavendish Square, Mdx. and Woodcot, Nettlebed, Oxon. Carmarthen 1796 - 7 Nov. 1796 Ludgershall 7 May 1804 - Dec. 1812 b. ? 1761, 3rd s. of John Dorrien, merchant banker and E.I. Co dir., of 9 Billiter Square, London and Great Berkhamstead, Herts, by Anne, da. of Thomas Barwick, merchant, of St. Matthew, Friday Street, London m. 16 Dec. 1788. Hon. Henrietta Cecilia Rice, da. of George Rice* of Newtown. Carm., sis. of George Talbot Rice, 3rd Baron Dinevor, 1s. 4da. Took additional name of Magens by royal lic. 30 Sept. 1794. Capt.-lt. East Grinstead vols. 1803. Dep. chairman. Rock Life Assurance 1812, chairman 1814. 1818. The Dorriens were of Hamburg merchant stock and settled in London in the early 18th century. Magens's father, John Dorrien, was a partner in the house of Dorrien and Mello of Billiter Square and in that of Boetefour, Dorrien & Co. of Old Jewry; from 1772 he was also a partner in the bank of Dorrien, Rucker and Carlton of 22 Finch Lane, Cornhill. On his death in 1784 Magens, who was left over £ 13,000 and an estate at Brightlingsen that had belonged to his uncle Nicholas Magens the army contractor (d.1764). became a partner in the bank, subsequently known as Dorriens, Mello, Martin and Harrison. He remained associated with it until its amalgamation with Curries' in 1842 1. The bank offered to raise the Prussian subsidy in 1794 2 and subscribed £ 40.000 to the loyalty loan for 1797. His younger brother George was a director of the Bank of England for most of this period. Magens owed his political debut to his wife's family, the Dinevors, who encouraged him to offer both for the borough and county of Carmarthen in 1796. The latter was a forlorn hope, but he was at first successful in the borough election, only to be unseated on petition. Had he held the seat, it would have been as locum tenens for the first available member of the Dinevor family. 3 By the time he found another seat, in 1804, he had written a pamphlet on the coinage. (His name is still given to the rare silver shilling of 1798.) This time he was returned unopposed on Viscount Sydney's interest, his brother-in-law, Lord Dinevor having married Sydney's daughter. Magens was listed a supporter of Pitt's second ministry in September 1804 and July 1805. His interest in the silver coinage prompted his first contributions to debate. 27, 29 Mar. 1805, and he opposed the Irish silver tokens bill, because he regarded tokens as little better than paper money and no substitute for the restoration of a silver coinage, 3 May. He was also interested in the linen trade, 7 May 1805. and on 9 June 1806 opposed the linen drawback bill. He supported the Grenville ministry's repeal of Pitt's Additional Force Act, 30 Apr. 1806, and was listed friendly to their abolition of the slave trade, but voted against them on the Hampshire election petition, 13 Feb. 1807. On 22 Apr. 1807 he was teller against the prosecution of a resident of Penryn for election irregularities. He was well disposed to the Portland administration, to whom Lord Dinevor applied on his behalf for a baronetcy. On 10 Aug. 1807 he was a spokesman for the West India sugar planters. 4 On 15 June 1808 he opposed the taxation of foreign investors in the funds. He defended the oyster fishery protection bill, a question in which his Essex property gave him an interest, 22 June 1808. Magens rallied to Perceval's ministry on the address, 23 Jan., and on the Scheldt question, 26 Jan., 23 Feb., 5. 30 Mar. 1810. The Whigs listed him 'Government' at that time. He voted against sinecure reform and against parliamentary reform, 17. 21 May 1810. He sided with ministers on the Regency, 1 Jan. 1811. But he spoke only on the currency problem: he had promised the House to do so. 1 Feb. 1810, and, on the report of the bullion committee, 13 May 1811, announced, as a select committeeman, that he agreed with the chairman as to the depreciation of paper currency and wished to see cash payments resumed as early as possible. On 10 Apr. 1812 he opposed the bank-note bill, at being likely 'to throw the country into a state of instability'. He was a die-hard opponent of Catholic relief, 22 June 1812. Magens was elected to but did not take his seat in the Parliament of 1812, his patron having sold his interest in the seat. He was never again in the House. He died 30 May 1849, aged 87. 5 1 Gent. Mag. (1764), 398; PCC 637 Oxford; Hilton Price, London Bankers, 54. 2 PRO 30/8/130, f. 37 3 See CARMARTHEN 4 Portland mss PW V 114; Gent. Mag. (1807), ii. 958: The Times, 11 Aug. 1807 (Part. Deb. attributed this speech to Charles Rose Ellis). 5 Gent. Mag. (1849), ii. 109 R.G.T. | |
| 12 | Deutsche Kaufleute in London 1660-1818 - Seite 143/144 |
| Seite 143/144 MPs deutscher Abstammumg in der zweiten und dritten Generation Name/ Parlamentszeit ... ... Magens Dorrien Magens 1796-1812 Bei Henry Schiffner, Sir John Duntze, den beiden Barings und John Angerstein handelte es sich um die zweite Generation der Einwanderer, bei den Vansittars, Magens Dorrien Magens und George Shum-Storey um die dritte Generation. --- Mehrere Mitglider der Familien Dörrien aus Hildesheim und Bremen waren Ende des 17. bzw. im frühen 18. Jahrhundert eingewandert. Magens Dorrien Magens war der Sohn von John Dorrien. Den Namen Magens hatte er von seinem Onkel Nicholas Magens aus Hamburg, dem großen Armeelieferanten angenommen, dessen Vermögen er geerbt hatte. | |
| 13 | The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 |
| The House of Common - 1790 - 1820 ---------------------------------------------------------- DORRIEN MAGENS, Magens (? 1761-1849), of 10 Cavendish Square, Mdx. and Woodcot, Nettlebed, Oxon. Carmarthen 1796 - 7 Nov. 1796 Ludgershall 7 May 1804 - Dec. 1812 b. ? 1761, 3rd s. of John Dorrien, merchant banker and E.I. Co dir., of 9 Billiter Square, London and Great Berkhamstead, Herts, by Anne, da. of Thomas Barwick, merchant, of St. Matthew, Friday Street, London m. 16 Dec. 1788. Hon. Henrietta Cecilia Rice, da. of George Rice* of Newtown. Carm., sis. of George Talbot Rice, 3rd Baron Dinevor, 1s. 4da. Took additional name of Magens by royal lic. 30 Sept. 1794. Capt.-lt. East Grinstead vols. 1803. Dep. chairman. Rock Life Assurance 1812, chairman 1814. 1818. The Dorriens were of Hamburg merchant stock and settled in London in the early 18th century. Magens's father, John Dorrien, was a partner in the house of Dorrien and Mello of Billiter Square and in that of Boetefour, Dorrien & Co. of Old Jewry; from 1772 he was also a partner in the bank of Dorrien, Rucker and Carlton of 22 Finch Lane, Cornhill. On his death in 1784 Magens, who was left over £ 13,000 and an estate at Brightlingsen that had belonged to his uncle Nicholas Magens the army contractor (d.1764). became a partner in the bank, subsequently known as Dorriens, Mello, Martin and Harrison. He remained associated with it until its amalgamation with Curries' in 1842 1. The bank offered to raise the Prussian subsidy in 1794 2 and subscribed £ 40.000 to the loyalty loan for 1797. His younger brother George was a director of the Bank of England for most of this period. Magens owed his political debut to his wife's family, the Dinevors, who encouraged him to offer both for the borough and county of Carmarthen in 1796. The latter was a forlorn hope, but he was at first successful in the borough election, only to be unseated on petition. Had he held the seat, it would have been as locum tenens for the first available member of the Dinevor family. 3 By the time he found another seat, in 1804, he had written a pamphlet on the coinage. (His name is still given to the rare silver shilling of 1798.) This time he was returned unopposed on Viscount Sydney's interest, his brother-in-law, Lord Dinevor having married Sydney's daughter. Magens was listed a supporter of Pitt's second ministry in September 1804 and July 1805. His interest in the silver coinage prompted his first contributions to debate. 27, 29 Mar. 1805, and he opposed the Irish silver tokens bill, because he regarded tokens as little better than paper money and no substitute for the restoration of a silver coinage, 3 May. He was also interested in the linen trade, 7 May 1805. and on 9 June 1806 opposed the linen drawback bill. He supported the Grenville ministry's repeal of Pitt's Additional Force Act, 30 Apr. 1806, and was listed friendly to their abolition of the slave trade, but voted against them on the Hampshire election petition, 13 Feb. 1807. On 22 Apr. 1807 he was teller against the prosecution of a resident of Penryn for election irregularities. He was well disposed to the Portland administration, to whom Lord Dinevor applied on his behalf for a baronetcy. On 10 Aug. 1807 he was a spokesman for the West India sugar planters. 4 On 15 June 1808 he opposed the taxation of foreign investors in the funds. He defended the oyster fishery protection bill, a question in which his Essex property gave him an interest, 22 June 1808. Magens rallied to Perceval's ministry on the address, 23 Jan., and on the Scheldt question, 26 Jan., 23 Feb., 5. 30 Mar. 1810. The Whigs listed him 'Government' at that time. He voted against sinecure reform and against parliamentary reform, 17. 21 May 1810. He sided with ministers on the Regency, 1 Jan. 1811. But he spoke only on the currency problem: he had promised the House to do so. 1 Feb. 1810, and, on the report of the bullion committee, 13 May 1811, announced, as a select committeeman, that he agreed with the chairman as to the depreciation of paper currency and wished to see cash payments resumed as early as possible. On 10 Apr. 1812 he opposed the bank-note bill, at being likely 'to throw the country into a state of instability'. He was a die-hard opponent of Catholic relief, 22 June 1812. Magens was elected to but did not take his seat in the Parliament of 1812, his patron having sold his interest in the seat. He was never again in the House. He died 30 May 1849, aged 87. 5 1 Gent. Mag. (1764), 398; PCC 637 Oxford; Hilton Price, London Bankers, 54. 2 PRO 30/8/130, f. 37 3 See CARMARTHEN 4 Portland mss PW V 114; Gent. Mag. (1807), ii. 958: The Times, 11 Aug. 1807 (Part. Deb. attributed this speech to Charles Rose Ellis). 5 Gent. Mag. (1849), ii. 109 R.G.T. | |
| 14 | Presse, London, Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the British Empire |
| Presse, London, Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the British Empire Dynevor ... I. George Talbot ... II. Edward in holy orders.... III. HenriettaCecilia, m. in 1788, to Magens Dorrien-Magens, Esq.; d. 17. Dec. 1829 iV. Maria ... |
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