Notizen zu dieser Person
Per LDS site:
Johann Georg SCHWALD
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Maria LENZ
Marriage: 17 Sep 1738
Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:13 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Cc: Janet
Subject: Re: I am Back
Hi Roderick,
I'm glad to hear good news about your wife doing well and I have news foryou:
Look in the old mail and find Johann Georg Schwald
He was born in 1715 in Gersbach and married Maria Lentz from Schwand in1737. They lived in Wies-Fischenberg (You've been there the day we metfirst) and had eight children:
Magdalena * 1738 Schwand
Anna * 1741 Schwand + 1752
Maria * 1742 Fischenberg + 1742
Johann Georg *1743 Fischenberg (your line)
Johann Jacob * 1745 Fischenberg
Maria * 1746 Fischenberg
Margaretha * 1749 Fischenberg
Johann Friedrich * 1751 Fischenberg (my line)
The parents of Johann Georg Schwald were:
Michael Schwald, * 1685 Neuenweg, + 1745 Gersbach
married in 1711 in Gersbach
Anna Kneußlin, * 1682 Gersbach, + 1759 Gersbach, daughter of HansKneußlin and Anna Meyer in Gersbach
The parents of Michael Schwald were:
Bernhard Schwald, * 1655 Neuenweg, + ?
married 1677 in Neuenweg
Catharina Bleickner, *1656 in Neuenweg, daughter of Jacob Bleickner andVerena Zeh from Neuenweg
The parents of Bernhard Schwald were:
Jacob Schwald, *1614 in Neuenweg, + 1686 in Neuenweg
married 1643 in Neuenweg
Maria Kiefer, *1613 in Neuenweg, + 1677 in Neuenweg
They had twelve children!
I think Werner Schwalds line goes from one of this children. May be allSchwald lines go from this Jacob Schwald. There are no church booksbefore 1600, so we can't go on now! I think it's ok here. Not everybodyhas a Stammbaum to 1613 but we have!
Another interesting thing is, how Michael Schwald came to Gersbach wichis about two days-walks from Neuenweg. Gersbach is like Neuenweg in Thehigh black-forrest. I think that he had to go there as a boy in thesummertime to keep care for the cows of other farmers. Poor people withmany children used to give some children away in summer to other farmers.So they didn't have to feed them this time. Often those "cowboys" wentall summer to the same farm and often married in the village or even inthe family of the farmer.
Michaels son Johann Georg went back to the area his father was born. Maybe he found his wife when he joined a wedding of a cousin or an otherfestival.
Now you can complete your Stammbaum with 12 generations! Wish you a goodwork! Christof
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 3:49 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Subject: Johann Georg Schwald -Maria Lenzin family
Per Christof:
Look in the old mail and find Johann Georg Schwald
He was born in 1715 in Gersbach and married Maria Lentz from Schwand in1737. They lived in Wies-Fischenberg (You've been there the day we metfirst) and had eight children:
Magdalena * 1738 Schwand
Anna * 1741 Schwand + 1752
Maria * 1742 Fischenberg + 1742
Johann Georg *1743 Fischenberg (your line)
Johann Jacob * 1745 Fischenberg
Maria * 1746 Fischenberg
Margaretha * 1749 Fischenberg
Johann Friedrich * 1751 Fischenberg (my line)
The parents of Johann Georg Schwald were:
Michael Schwald, * 1685 Neuenweg, + 1745 Gersbach
married in 1711 in Gersbach
Anna Kneußlin, * 1682 Gersbach, + 1759 Gersbach, daughter of HansKneußlin and Anna Meyer in Gersbach
The parents of Michael Schwald were:
Bernhard Schwald, * 1655 Neuenweg, + ?
married 1677 in Neuenweg
Catharina Bleickner, *1656 in Neuenweg, daughter of Jacob Bleickner andVerena Zeh from Neuenweg
The parents of Bernhard Schwald were:
Jacob Schwald, *1614 in Neuenweg, + 1686 in Neuenweg
married 1643 in Neuenweg
Maria Kiefer, *1613 in Neuenweg, + 1677 in Neuenweg
They had twelve children!
I think Werner Schwalds line goes from one of this children. May be allSchwald lines go from this Jacob Schwald. There are no church booksbefore 1600, so we can't go on now! I think it's ok here. Not everybodyhas a Stammbaum to 1613 but we have!
Another interesting thing is, how Michael Schwald came to Gersbach wichis about two days-walks from Neuenweg. Gersbach is like Neuenweg in Thehigh black-forrest. I think that he had to go there as a boy in thesummertime to keep care for the cows of other farmers. Poor people withmany children used to give some children away in summer to other farmers.So they didn't have to feed them this time. Often those "cowboys" wentall summer to the same farm and often married in the village or even inthe family of the farmer.
Michaels son Johann Georg went back to the area his father was born. Maybe he found his wife when he joined a wedding of a cousin or an otherfestival.
per email:
Johann Georg Schwald of Grenzach married Maria Lenzin of Schwand in Wieson September 17, 1738. The father of Johann Georg was Michel Schwaldinof Grenzach (shown as Greszach) and an unnamed mother. The father ofMaria was Michel Lenzin and an unnamed mother. The children of JohannGeorg and Maria were:
1. Maria, born in Fischenberg on September 20, 1742. (The father wasshown as Hans Jerg.)
2. Johann Georg, born in Fischenberg on September 10, 1743. (The fatheris shown as Hans Jerg.)
3. Johann Jacob, born in Fischenberg on January 11, 1744. (The father wasshown as Johann Georg.)
4. Maria, born in Fischenberg on August 6, 1746. (The father was shown asJohann Georg.)
5. Margaretha, born in Fischenberg on February 20, 1748. (The father wasshown as Johann Georg.)
6. Friedrich, born in Fischenberg on May, 24, 1750. (The father was shownas Hans Georg.)
All data are from roll #1189732.
I suspect that other children were born between 1738 and 1742 in,perhaps, Grenzach or Schwand. It was highly unusual for a couple to waitfour years before having their first child, and it was even not at alluncommon for the bride to be pregnant at the time of the marriage.
What micro-film rolls have you ordered?
I have some reservations about Grenzach. It is spelled in an unusual wayon the marriage record and it is a long way from Fischenberg and Schwand.Althoug there is no other name spelled even close to it, further researchneeds to verify it.
NOTE: LAST BORN SON...IS CHRISTOF'S ANCESTOR...CHRISTOF'S BRANCH STARTSHERE
Johann Georg SCHWALD
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Maria LENZ
Marriage: 17 Sep 1738
Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
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Source Information:
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Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type
M936741 1738-1833 1189732
Roderick
Schwald
