Jakob 1873 GOG

Jakob 1873 GOG

Eigenschaften

Art Wert Datum Ort Quellenangaben
Name Jakob 1873 GOG
Beruf Gastwirt / Karlsruhe

Ereignisse

Art Datum Ort Quellenangaben
Geburt 3. Juni 1873 Ulm, Deutschland. röm.-kath nach diesem Ort suchen
Tod 18. Juni 1917 Flensburg, Schleswig-Holstein, Landsturm nach diesem Ort suchen
Heirat 20. August 1901 Luteranische Trauung / wahrscheinlich Bretten/Baden nach diesem Ort suchen

Ehepartner und Kinder

Heirat Ehepartner Kinder
20. August 1901
Luteranische Trauung / wahrscheinlich Bretten/Baden
Karoline Katharina HOFMANN

Notizen zu dieser Person

03.06.1873 18.06.1917 LANDSTURM stationierter Reservist während des Kriges um die französischen Kriegsgefangenen zu bewachen. Gegraben in Flensburg Grave site in Flensburg/ proof of dates Hatte 4 Kinder alle sind evangelisch getauft Die älteste Tocher ist Luise Gog 22.11.1902 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 um 22:14 Uhr Betreff: Fwd: For Eva Marie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 2013/11/20 Subject: For Eva Marie Dear Eva, My information is taken from the parish record of Oepfingen courtesy of Father Andreas. You probably have this information from him too. If not, I can send you by snail mail a copy of mine. Jakob Gog and Theresia Hutzel were the parents of Bernhard Gog. Lorenz Hildenbrand and Anna Maria Bitterle were the parents of Elisabeth Hildenbrand, Bernhard's wife. I have no dates for Jakob, Theresia, Lorenz or Anna Maria, but he must be the first Jacob you are concerned about. Bernhard was born on Nov. 3, 1834 and died on Jan. 19, 1899. Elisabeth was born on Nov. 13, 1842 and died on Dec. 15, 1880, two days after giving birth to her 14th child, also Elisabeth. Bernhard and the first Elisabeth were married on Oct. 27, 1863. The babies came in rapid succession, and many of them died. The survivors were the ones from whom we came. It's amazing when you think of it. I won't attempt to repeat to you what is on the Oepfingen parish record because you probably have it and more. I will study what you sent about all these Gogs and add it, as best I can read it, to what I already have. And many thanks. If I am reading the parish record correctly, Bernhard had at least six more children after Elisabeth died, two of them being twins. The record calls them "spurius," illegitimate in English. They seem to have died almost within days of birth. My Jacob Gog was the 9th child. According to the parish record he was born on March 6, 1873 but according to his grave stone of which I shall send you a picture, he was born on June 3, 1873. The parish record says 06.03.1873. The gravestone says 3.6.1873. There is a mistake somewhere. I'm inclined to believe in the gravestone and yet I have a vague childhood memory of my mother and my grandmother, Karoline Hoffmann Gog, speaking of March. Anyway, the Jakob you have written as 6.6.1873 is probably a complete mistake about a non existent person which I hope never originated with me. My Jacob died on June 18, 1917. I did meet in the 1960's some of the children of Jacob's siblings. They were still living and they were my mother's first cousins. Her sisters, my aunts Mina and Frieda of Karlsruhe, took me to see them in Ulm and Oepfingen. In Ulm I met Karl Gog, the son of Hugo Gog, his wife Ruth, and their son Hans and his wife Christa with their grandchildren, Jochen and Christoph, little children at the time. Karl and Ruth were very good to me, Karl even touring me around the Napoleonic battlefield of Ulm. My academic degrees are in modern European history so it was a great treat for me. We went also to Oepfingen to visit Lorenz Gog's children by his first wife whose name I don't know. First we saw "Tante Emma" who had kept house for her half brother Karl, the son of Lorenz's second wife, Philomena Seiz. This Karl became a Catholic priest but died rather young. Tante Emma was considered something of a saint and I don't doubt that she was. From Emma, we went on to visit her full brother Hugo who lived with his son or (maybe it was his daughter) and their family. I will have to check them out on your chart. It was this Hugo who wanted to study art and was thought to have had real talent. But the family needed him on the land in Oepfingen. Apparently Emma and Hugo were little when they lost their mother and it was the children of Lorenz's second wife, Philomena, who were favored with excellent education, the classic stepmother story. At least so I heard it. Karl-the-priest's younger brother was Franz Gog of Sigmaringen. He and Magda, I believe a medical doctor, were the parents of our Father Andreas and his sisters, Beata and Monika whom perhaps you have met. I met Franz twice. He was sent by the government of Wurttemberg/Baden on a tour with other jurists to America in about 1954. He visited my family in San Francisco and it was quite a thrill for me to meet him. I met him again in the late 60's in Sigmaringen. Andreas was on vacation from the seminary so I met him too. We went hiking in the area on one day, and on another, Franz took me to see the burial place of Frederick the Great, which I think has since been moved back to Potsdam. So, dear Eva Maria, I hope this answers your immediate questions. I look forward to a leisurely study of your chart and I know mine will benefit from it. Let me know if you don't have the Oepfingen parish record. I can snail mail you a copy. I will also be snail mailing you a copy of the disc I prepared on our Gog's for our family. Some of it might interest you and some not. Finally, I am working on the email problem. I do have a G mail account but I've never used it, nor do I have a G mail address. However, my niece Cynthia is going to enlighten me. Perhaps then you can reach me through G mail. That probably won't fix the web.de problem, but we shall see. Maybe you could get G mail too? With many thanks to Simone, aufwiedersehen for now. Caroline Restaurant zum Felseneck. E 2 Jakob Gog was the proprietor or “wirt” of the Felseneck restaurant which served beer from the brewery of Heinrich Fels. In the first interior picture from left to right are Jakob Gog, Karoline Gog, unknown person. E 3 “Greetings from the Felseneck” in Karlsruhe at the corner of Scheffel and Kriegstrasse, licensed to H. Fels The child and woman in the foreground are Louise Gog and her nanny. If the child is two or threethen the picture dates from about 1904 or 1905. The Gog family lived on the third floor of the building. E 5 The “Concertgarten” of the Felseneck. The location is given as Kriegstrasse and Frobelstrasse as is likewise inscribed on the interior view of the restaurant below. The child seated by her father in the white jacket is Louise, a little older now. The Gog’s sold the business either shortly before or after the outbreak of World War I in July, 1914.

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Titel Zeh_Gog_Renz_Brandmaier
Beschreibung Deutschland Baden-Württemberg Zeh_Gog_Renz_Brandmaier
Hochgeladen 2013-12-01 20:27:47.0
Einsender user's avatar Eva-Maria Zeh
E-Mail evamzeh@web.de
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